Interpretations of Jesus
Principals
Concerns about Unitarians from a Trinitarian view
Trinitarian concern | Unitarian response |
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Unitarians are "antichrists" (1 John 1:1-2; 4:2). | This because of a misunderstanding of 1 John. |
Unitarians are "heretics" according to the earliest known Church fathers. | The church's opinion does not matter. |
Unitarians are "blaspheming" against God, because they reduce Jesus to a human. | This is not a Unitarian idea. It is written in scripture that Jesus was a human. |
Unitarians will go to hell because they do not believe Jesus is God. | The bible records that thousands got saved without the knowing that "Jesus is God". |
Concerns about Trinitarians from a Unitarian view
Unitarian concern | Trinitarian response |
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Trinitarians practise idolatry by worshipping and serving Jesus. | Jesus is God, therefore it is impossible to idolize him. |
Trinitarians gives God's glory to a human Jesus which defies the purpose God created us (Ephesians 1:3-6). | It does not matter to whom you give the glory because they are equal. |
Why was the world created?
- Trinitarians: To serve Jesus
- Unitarians: To glorify and love the Father
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Colossians 1:13-17; Hebrews 1:1-2 | We were created to serve Jesus | context |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Mark 12:33 | Our purpose is to love the Father and each other. | godhead |
Ephesians 1:3-6 | We were created to be adopted by the Father for His glory when we praise Him. | godhead |
God's glory
Question | Trinitarian answer | Unitarian answer |
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How did God proved His love? | God proved His love by suffering as a limited human being until death. | God proved His love by sending "His only beloved son" (John 3:16-17 KJV) with whom he is "well pleased" (Mark 1:11) to suffer and die in our place. |
Did God proved He can beat the devil as a human (Hebrews 2:14)? | God proved that He can beat the devil without using His almighty power. | A real human (not a God restraining Himself) can beat the devil. |
Did God sacrificed His son? | Concern: God would commit child sacrifice if He sacrificed His own son (Leviticus 18:21; Deuteronomy 12:31). | Jesus could had bailed out (Luke 4:2; Matthew 26:39; Mark 14:36), but choose to proceed with God's plan (John 4:34, 5:30, 6:38) because they were in agreement on it (John 10:30). |
Is God a sadist? | According to John 3:16, God would be a sadist if He sacrifice someone else for His own pleasure. | God had pleasure in saving the world (1 Timothy 2:3-4). Death gives God no pleasure (Ezekiel 18:32, 33:11). John 3:16 does not say God send His son to be tutored, but instead to save the world. |
Does Jesus obedience glorified God? | No, because there are no glory in self-obedience. | Yes, despite the persecution and several opportunities to bail out (Luke 4), Jesus still choose to obey God (John 17:4). |
Does God glorify Himself? | Yes, self-glorification is a form of boasting. | No, as the Son is distinct from the Father they can truly glorify each other (John 13:31, 17:1). |
Does God witness to Himself? | Yes, that is why we need to believe in Jesus. | No, as the Son is distinct from the Father they can independently witness each other (John 8:17-18; 1 John 5:9). |
Has God always been holy? | No, He temporarily became contaminated (unholy) to bear our sin. | Yes, his Son became cursed with sin (Galatians 3:13; Isaiah 53:6; 1 Peter 2:24) without contaminating the Holy God. |
Relating to the Godhead
Relating to Jesus
Question | Trinitarian answer | Unitarian answer |
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Would Jesus have been born if mankind did not sin? | No, he would have stayed divine because it would have been unnecessary to solve mankind's sin problem. | Yes, his birth was planned by God even before the fall of mankind (John 1; 1 John 1-2). |
Does Jesus truly understand our needs, suffering and desires? | Yes, because he is omniscient, but because he only temporarily limited himself in a human form and still had god-like power, he did not had a true human experience like us. | Yes, because Jesus is real human like us. |
Salvation
Both Trinitarian and the Unitarians groups agree that salvation is needed:
- God has to end sin.
- Because we have sinned, God is obliged to end us too (Romans 3:22-23, 5:12).
- Therefore, sin brings separation between us and God (Isaiah 59:1-2).
- Therefore, forgiveness of sin is essential for salvation.
However, they disagree on the solution:
Who can save us?
- Trinitarians: Only God Himself can forgive and save us from His own wrath, therefore Jesus our saviour has to be God.
- Unitarians: God made it possible for Christ to "pay" for our sin (Matthew 20:28; Mark 10:45; 1 Peter 1:18-19), but establishing the new blood covenant which enable Christ to reconcile God again with us. This reconciliation authority (name of Jesus), enabled Christ to forgive sin on behalf of God (as a delegate under His authority). Therefore, they are both "Saviours", but each in their own way.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Matthew 9:2; Mark 2:10 | Jesus forgives sin against God. Therefore Jesus has to be God. | assumption |
Titus 2:13 (NIV) | Jesus is our great God and Saviour. | bad translation |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Nehemiah 9:27; 2 Kings 13:5; Obadiah 21 | Humans are also considered "saviours" in the bible. | |
Isaiah 61:8-9; Matthew 26:26-28; Luke 22:17-20; Mark 14:22-24; 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 | God saved us by establishing a new blood covenant with the blood of Christ. | man-part of Jesus |
Revelation 7:10 | Both God on the throne and the standing "Lamb" are considered "saviours". | symbolic |
Do we need to belief that Jesus is God to be saved?
- Trinitarians: Yes, the early church fathers determined that those who do not believe Jesus is God, are "heretics" (or "antichrists").
- Unitarians: No, neither Jesus, nor Peter, nor Paul preached it and thousands of people who did not know Jesus got saved.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
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The council of Nicaea determined that anyone who do not believe Jesus is God is a "heretic". | theology | |
1 John 1:1-2; 4:2 | Anyone that state that "Jesus is not God in the flesh" is the antichrist. | wrong conclusion |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Luke 7:36-50 | Jesus converted a woman without telling her that he is God. | |
Acts 2:14-47 | Peter converted 3000 people without telling them Jesus is God. | |
Acts 13:13-44; 17:22-34 | Paul converted people without telling them Jesus is God. |
How is it possible keep the standards set by Jesus?
- Trinitarians: It is impossible to keep Jesus (the God)'s standards, therefore we should only strive to be more like Jesus
- Unitarians: Jesus demonstrated that God's standards are fair and that it is possible for a human to live according to it.
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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John 13:15 | Jesus commanded that we should do as he did. | strive |
Romans 8:29 | Paul wrote we should conform to the image of Christ. | strive |
1 Peter 2:21 | Peter say it is possible to follow Jesus. | strive |
1 John 2:5-6 | John wrote we should walk as Jesus walked. | strive |
Should we worship and serve Jesus?
- Trinitarians: Yes, as God.
- Unitarians: Worship in the sense of respect, serve in the sense of obedience, but not "worship and serve" in the sense of sacrificial offering to a god.
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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1 Samuel 7:3-4 & Matthew 4:10; Luke 4:8 | Only the God, YHVH, should be "worshipped and served". | demo |
Matthew 4:1-2 | Jesus fasted (worship a greater God). | demo |
Acts 24:14 | Paul only worship the God of the fathers of Israel (the fathers of Israel did not knew Jesus). | godhead |
Should we pray to Jesus?
- Trinitarians: Yes, as God.
- Unitarians: No, instead we should pray to the Father.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
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John 14:12-14,16:23 | When we use Jesus' name in prayers, we pray to Jesus. | proven wrong |
Acts 7:56-60 | Stephen prayed to Jesus. | assumption |
Acts 9:1-6 | Saul prayed to Jesus. | vision |
Acts 9:10-16 | Ananias prayed to Jesus. | vision |
1 Corinthians 1:9; 1 John 1:3 | We are supposed to have fellowship with Jesus. Communication is essential for fellowship. | wrong conclusion |
2 Corinthians 12:8-10 | Paul prayed to Jesus. | context |
Revelation 22:20 | John prayed to Jesus. | assumption |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Ezra 9:5-6 | Ezra prayed to the LORD (YHVH) instead. | godhead |
Matthew 6:9-13; Luke 11:1-2 | Jesus taught that we should pray to our Father in heaven. | demo |
Matthew 26:39,42; John 11:41, 17:1-26 | Jesus himself prayed to the Father. | demo |
Philippians 4:6-7; 1 Timothy 2:1-4 | Paul taught that prayer requests should be made to God. | interpretation |
Essence
Did Jesus pre-exist?
"Pre-exist" means that Jesus already existed as a living being before he was born as Mary's child.
- Trinitarians: Yes, as God.
- Arians (or JW): Yes, but as a lesser divine being.
- Strict Unitarians: No, as Matthew testified, his physical beginning ("genesis") started at his conception.
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Matthew 1:1 | Matthew's genealogy shows that many people existed before Jesus came into existence. | man-part of Jesus |
Matthew 1:17-18 | Matthew recorded that Jesus originated from his birth. | man-part of Jesus |
Galatians 4:4 | Jesus was born of a woman, not an incarnation of God. | man-part of Jesus |
The prophecies were about a future Christ who did not exist yet. | man-part of Jesus | |
Nature shows that a son has to be younger than his father. Therefore there has to be a period where the Son did not exist yet. |
What was Jesus when he was born on Earth?
- Trinitarians: Fully 100% God, also 100% man too (God-man). Trinitarians have different views on how this contradiction is possible:
- Hypostatic Union: Jesus had always been God and man simultaneously. Jesus is almighty and anything is possible for him, even if it defies logic. We should believe this mystery.
- Kenosis Theology: Jesus only temporary limited ("emptied") himself from his God-hood to have a true human experience like us.
- Unitarians: A 100% human like us, except that he did not inherit any sin from Joseph (virgin birth) and therefore he was sinless and holy like God originally created Adam. Jesus is not God Himself, but the Son of God which means his Father is also his God.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
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John 1:14, Hebrews 1:1-4 | Jesus was God's manifestation. | assumption |
John 1:17-18 (NLT), Titus 2:13 | Jesus was God's image. | bad translation |
Romans 9:5 (NIV) | Jesus was God's human incarnation. | confusing translation |
Colossians 1:15 | Jesus was God's image. | wrong conclusion |
Colossians 2:9 | Jesus' body contained God. | context |
1 Timothy 3:16 | Jesus was God's manifestation. | bad translation |
1 John 1:1-2, 4:2 | Jesus was God's body. | wrong conclusion |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument | |
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Numbers 23:19 | God is not the "son of man". | restriction of Jesus | |
Psalm 2:7 (KJV) & Acts 13:33, Hebrews 1:5,5:5 (KJV); John 1:14,18,3:16 (KJV); 1 John 4:9 (KJV) | Jesus is the Father's offspring. | biased translation | |
Psalm 90:2; Isaiah 40:27; Romans 16:26 | God had always been God and never incarnated into anything else. | restriction of Jesus | |
1 Kings 8:27 | The earth cannot contain God. | restriction of Jesus | |
Matthew 1:1-17; Luke 3:23-38 | Jesus had a human genealogy. | man-part of Jesus | |
Matthew 1:18 | Matthew wrote that Jesus' "origin" (genesis), but translated as "birth" started with Mary. | man-part of Jesus | |
Matthew 8:20; 9:6; 10:23; 11:19; 12:8, 40; 13:41; 16:13,27,28; 17:9,12,22; 18:11; 19:28; 20:18; 20:28; 24:27,30,37,39,44; 25:13(KJV),31; 26:2,24,45(KJV),64 | Matthew wrote that Jesus is the promised "son of man". | man-part of Jesus | |
Mark 2:10,28; 8:31,38; 9:9,12,31; 10:33,45; 13:26; 14:21,41,62 | Mark wrote that Jesus is the promised "son of man". | man-part of Jesus | |
Luke 5:24; 6:5; 7:34; 9:22,26,44,56(KJV),58(KJV); 11:30; 12:8,10,40; 17:22,24,30; 18:8,31; 19:10; 21:27,36; 22:22,48,69; 24:7 | Luke wrote that Jesus is the promised "son of man". | man-part of Jesus | |
Luke 24:38-43 & John 4:21-24 | Jesus is human and not spirit, but God is spirit and not human. | restriction of Jesus | |
John 1:51; 3:13,14; 5:27; 6:27,53,62; 8:28; 12:23,34; 13:31 | John wrote that Jesus is the promised "son of man". | man-part of Jesus | |
Galatians 4:4; Romans 8:29; Colossians 1:13-15,18 | Paul wrote that Jesus was born. | man-part of Jesus |
What is Jesus today?
- Trinitarians: Trinitarians argue among themselves on this point. Some suggest:
- Hypostatic Union: Jesus was already God from the beginning and that his nature never changed.
- Kenosis Theology: Jesus only temporary limited ("emptied") himself from his God-hood to have a true human experience like us.
- Unitarians: A resurrected and exalted lord (king)
Scripture | Trinitarian - Hypostatic Union argument | Counter argument |
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Malachi 3:6 | Jesus is the LORD and never changed. | confusing concepts |
John 1:14,18, 3:16-18, 1 John 4:9 | Jesus is God's son, therefore he has to be of the same divine kind (essence). | wrong conclusion |
Scripture | Trinitarian - Kenosis Theology argument | Counter argument |
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Mark 1:1; John 1:39, 20:30 & Matthew 8:20; 9:6; 10:23... | Jesus is both "Son of God" and "Son of Man". | wrong conclusion |
Acts 9:1-8 | Jesus' limitation was removed so that he could appeared to Saul. | wrong conclusion |
Philippians 2:10-11 | Jesus' exaltation means: He removed his previous human limitations. | context |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Matthew 18:20 | It was necessary for Jesus to return so that God's Spirit could continue God's work in the body (delegates) of Christ in the absence of Jesus | godhead |
Philippians 2:9-11 | Jesus' exaltation means: He received great authority from God to be our Lord. | |
Philippians 3:21 | Paul's disciples have the same type of body as Jesus. | man-part of Jesus |
Witnesses
What was prophesied about Jesus nature?
- Trinitarians: Jesus is God. Every reference to "the Lord" in the Old Testament refers to our "Lord Jesus" even when the name "Jesus" is not mentioned.
- Unitarians: Jesus is human. No Jew expected a God to be born.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument | |
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Psalm 2 | The LORD "begot" Jesus before Psalm 2 was written. | wrong conclusion | |
Psalm 78 & Matthew 13:34-35 | Jesus is God. | bad correlation | |
Psalm 82 | Jesus is God. | confusing translation | |
Psalm 97 | Jesus is God. | bad quotation | |
Psalm 102 | Jesus is God. | bad quotation | |
Psalm 118 & Matthew 21:2; Luke 20:17; Acts 4:11; 1 Peter 2:7 | Jesus is God. | bad correlation | |
Isaiah 7:14, Matthew 1:23 (ESV) | Jesus is called "God with us". | wrong conclusion | |
Isaiah 9:6 | Jesus is the eternal Father. | biased translation | |
Isaiah 40:1-5 quoted by Matthew 3:1-3; Mark 1:2-3; Luke 3:4-6 | John the Baptist prepared the path for God, then Jesus came. | confusing subjects | |
Isaiah 54:13, John 6:45-46 | Prophesied that God would teach, then Jesus came. | bad correlation | |
Isaiah 61:1-2 & Luke 4:14-22 | Jesus did miracles, therefore he is is God. | wrong conclusion | |
Jeremiah 23:5-6 | Jesus is the LORD God. | bad correlation | |
Zechariah 11:4-17 quoted by Matthew 27:3-10 | Both the LORD God and Jesus was priced 30 pieces of silver. | biased translation | |
Zechariah 12:10 (NIV) | Prophesied that God would be pierced, then Jesus was pierced. | biased translation | |
Malachi 3:1 & Matthew 11:7-11 | Jesus fulfilled the prophecy which implies he is "the LORD of hosts". | bad correlation | |
Matthew 16:27-28 | Jesus will return to judge the world. | wrong conclusion | |
Matthew 25:31 | Jesus will sit on a throne in heaven, therfore he is God. | bad correlation | |
Revelation 1:8 | Jesus is the Alpha and Omega which is God. | confusing translation | |
Revelation 5:8-14 | Jesus is worshipped by all angels and creatures, therefore he is God. | confusing events |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Genesis 3:15 | God has no ancestors, yet Jesus would be a descendant of Adam and Eve. | man-part of Jesus |
Genesis 49:10; Jeremiah 30:21; Micah 5:2-5 & Matthew 2:5-6 | God has no ancestors, yet Jesus would be a descendant of Judah. | man-part of Jesus |
Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & John 5:46-47, Acts 3:22-26 | Jesus would be a human prophet like Moses. | man-part of Jesus |
Psalm 2; Acts 13:16, 32-33 | God is eternal, yet it was prophesied that Jesus would be born. | man-part of Jesus |
Psalm 16:8-11 & Acts 2:22,25-34; Isaiah 42:1-4 & Matthew 12:15-21; Isaiah 52:13-53:12 & Luke 22:37 | God serves nobody, yet Jesus would be God's servant. | demo |
Psalm 110:1; Micah 5:2-5 & Matthew 2:5-6; Matthew 22:41-46 (ESV); Mark 12:35–37; Luke 20:40–44 | God does not have a god, yet Jesus would have a God. | man-part of Jesus |
Isaiah 11:1 | God has no ancestors, yet Jesus would be a descendant of Jesse. | man-part of Jesus |
Isaiah 11:1-2; 42:1-2; 61:1 | Jesus would need God's Spirit.. | man-part of Jesus |
Isaiah 61:1-2 & Luke 4:14-22 | Jesus is distinct from God. | demo |
Daniel 7:10,14,27 | Jesus appeared separately before God. | symbolic |
Daniel 9:24-27; Zechariah 13:7-9 & Mark 14:27; Matthew 26:31 | God is immortal, but Jesus would die. | man-part of Jesus |
Luke 1:26-37 | Gabriel announced that Jesus would be the son of God, not God Himself. | godhead |
Revelation 1:1 | God gave Jesus a revelation. | |
Revelation 1:4-5 | God and Jesus is mentioned distinctively in the same sentence. | |
Revelation 4:2 & Revelation 5:2-6 | God is seen distinctively from Jesus | symbolic |
How did Jesus identified himself?
- Trinitarians: As God and equal to the Father.
- Unitarians: Not God, but "the Son" of God
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Psalm 27:1, John 1:5 & John 8:12 | Jesus said that he is "the light of the world" like God. | bad correlation |
Jesus made various equality claims to the Father. |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Matthew 16:17; John 9:35, 10:36, 17:1-5, 19:17 | Jesus said that he is "the Son of God". | godhead |
Matthew 19:17 | Jesus said that he is not God | man-part |
Matthew 26:39,42,53; Luke 6:12; John 11:41, 17:1 | Jesus prayed to his God | demo |
John 5:19-30 | Jesus is the Son of God. | godhead |
John 5:44-55, 8:49-50,54, 17:1-3 | Jesus said that there is only 1 God which is not him. | man-part |
John 8:39-40 | Jesus said that he is human. | man-part |
John 20:17 | Jesus said that he has a God | man-part |
How did the believers identified Jesus?
- Trinitarians: As God because "the Son of a God" has to be a god, but since there can only be 1 God, Jesus has to be the God.
- Unitarians: As the Son of God or the Son of Man
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Psalm 45 & Hebrews 1:8-9 | Sons of Korah: Jesus is forever God | bad quotation |
Jeremiah 17:5 (NIV) | We are cursed if we trust in a man, so Jesus cannot be a man. | overgeneralized |
Matthew 16:13-17; Acts 3:13, 4:27-30 | Peter: "the Son of God" | godhead |
John 20:28 | Thomas: "My Lord and my God!" | context |
Acts 20:28 (NIV) | Paul: "the church of God, which he bought with his own blood." | bad translation |
Romans 9:5 | Paul: "Christ who is God over all" | confusing translation |
Colossians 2:9 | Paul: "the whole fullness of deity" | context |
Titus 2:13 (NIV) | Paul: "the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ" | bad translation |
1 Peter 1:20-21 | Peter: "Jesus are your faith and hope as God" | biased translation |
2 Peter 1:1 | Peter: "our God and Savior Jesus Christ" | biased translation |
1 John 5:20 (ESV) | John: Jesus is the true God | confusing subjects |
How did the unbelievers identified Jesus?
- Trinitarians: It does not matter
- Unitarians: Not God, but "the Son" of God (it confirms the believers)
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Matthew 26:63-66 | High priest: Jesus is God | context |
John 3:1-2 (REV) | Nicodemus: Jesus "came" God. | biased translation |
John 5:17-18 | Jews: Jesus is equal with God | context |
John 10:33 | Jews: Jesus is God | context |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Matthew 27:54 | The centurion: Jesus is the Son of God | man-part |
John 3:1-2 (REV) | Nicodemus: Jesus is a teacher "sent" from God. He also acknowledged that Jesus was distinct from God and did not respond as if he believed that Jesus was God. | man-part |
Did the devil belief Jesus is God?
- Trinitarians: Yes, that is why the devil tried to tempt him.
- Unitarians: No, God cannot be tempted. The devil never assumed to tried to disproof Jesus' god-hood. Instead, Jesus was tempted on human desires.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
James 2:19 | The devil know who God was. | not-jesus |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Matthew 4:1; Luke 4:1-2,13; Hebrews 4:15 vs James 1:13 | Jesus was tempted, while God cannot be tempted. | demo |
Matthew 4:3,6; Luke 4:3,9 | The devil never asked Jesus to proof that he is God, instead he challenged his sonship. | man-part of Jesus |
Matthew 4:4; Luke 4:4 | Jesus defend himself with a scripture that is only applicable to humans. | man-part of Jesus |
Matthew 4:4; Luke 4:4 | The devil tempted Jesus to be disobedient to God. | man-part of Jesus |
Matthew 4:5-7; Luke 4:9-11 | Jesus admit that he needs God's protection. | man-part of Jesus |
Matthew 4:8-9; Luke 4:5-6 | The devil offered kingdoms to Jesus, but God would not need the devil's help. | |
Matthew 4:9; Luke 4:7 | Only a human can worship the devil, not God. | man-part of Jesus |
Matthew 4:10; Luke 4:8 | Jesus said only God (not himself) should be worshipped. | man-part of Jesus |
Matthew 4:6-7; Luke 4:12 | Both Jesus and the devil agrees that God is someone distict from Jesus. | godhead |
Sacrifice
Why was Jesus baptized?
- Trinitarians: To set an example for us.
- Unitarians: To "fulfill all righteousness" with his God.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Jesus only demonstrated how we should baptize and dedicate ourselves to Him. | assumption |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Matthew 3:13-17 | Jesus was baptized out of obedience to be accepted by God. | demo |
Matthew 3:13-17; John 17:17-19 | Jesus was dedicated for God's special purpose. | demo |
Mark 1:9; Acts 19:4 | God does not repent (Numbers 23:19), yet Jesus was baptized into repentance. demo |
Why was Jesus' sacrifice necessary?
- Trinitarians: As an eternal God, he was the only worthy sacrifice that could pay for all mankind in all eternity.
- Unitarians: God "paid" with Jesus' blood but establishing a new covenant that applies to all mankind.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Matthew 5:17; Hebrews 8:7-13 | Jesus deprecated His Own previous laws (as God) | biased translation |
Romans 5:6-8 | Jesus had to proof that he loves us. | assumption |
Hebrews 2:14 | God had to bargain a fair price with the devil to buy us back. | unknown author |
Hebrews 2:14-15 | God has to proof that He can defeat the devil as a human. | unknown author |
Hebrews 7:27, 10:11-14 | Jesus was a divine high priest. | unknown author |
Jesus as a Jew, had to pay the price for breaking the Old Covenant. | assumption |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Matthew 16:17; John 4:21-26 | Jesus had to have human blood, God is spirit | man-part of Jesus |
Isaiah 61:8-9; Matthew 20:28; Mark 10:45; Luke 22:17-20; John 3:16-18; Romans 3:21-26, 5:6-19, 6:10-23; 1 Corinthians 15:6-22; Galatians 3:13, 4:3-9; Ephesians 2:12-22; Titus 2:9-14; 1 Peter 1:18-19; 1 John 2:2,4:9-10 | God established the new blood covenant by "paying" with His only-begotten Son's blood (redemption prize) to enable reconciliation with us. | symbolic |
What was sacrificed for our sin?
- Trinitarians: God in a human form
- Unitarians: A real human Christ
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
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John 3:16; Romans 5:6-8 | God cannot proof His love unless He sacrificed Himself. | assumption |
Romans 5:8 | 1 human sacrifice is not sufficient to pay for all humanity's sin. Only an infinite God can redeem infinite sin. | assumption |
Romans 8:34 | God would be a sadist if he sacrifice someone else for His own pleasure. | wrong conclusion |
Philippians 2:7 (ESV) | God "emptied" Himself to experience human pain, humiliation and death. | bad translation |
If Jesus was a human, then God could have sacrificed anyone. | wrong conclusion |
Power
Who created the world?
- Trinitarians: Jesus as God
- Unitarians: Not Jesus, but God
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Malachi 2:10 | The "Him" in John 1:10 refers to Jesus and quotes Malachi. | confusing concepts |
John 1:1-3 | Jesus as "the Word" was the Creator. | biased translation |
Acts 3:14-15 | Jesus is the "Author of life". | biased translation |
1 Corinthians 8:6 | The Father gave the command, but Jesus did the actual creation work. | confusing translation |
Colossians 1:13-17 | Jesus created the world. | context |
Hebrews 1:2 | The Father made through Jesus the world. | confusing translation |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Psalm 33:6-9; 95:3-6; 148:5; Isaiah 44:24, 45:12, 48:13; Romans 4:17; Revelation 4:11 | God alone created the world, not Jesus. | godhead |
Is Jesus the Father God?
- Trinitarians: Yes, because they are equal.
- Unitarians: No, they are distinct persons.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument | |
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Deuteronomy 30:20 & John 1:4, 6:35, 11:25-36, 14:6 | Both the Father and Jesus is called "the Life". | bad correlation | |
2 Kings 19:22; Psalm 1:22, 78:41, 89:18... & Luke 1:35; Acts 2:27, 13:35; Hebrews 7:26 | Both the Father and Jesus is called "Holy". | bad correlation | |
Psalm 23:1, 95:7; Isaiah 40:11; Ezekiel 34:2 & John 10:14 | Both the Father and Jesus is called "the Shepherd". | bad correlation | |
Psalm 27:1; Isaiah 60:1-5,19-20; 1 John 1:5-7 & John 1:5, 3:19, 8:12 | Both the Father and Jesus is called "the Light". | bad correlation | |
Psalm 55:22 & Matthew 11:30 | Both the Father and Jesus carries our burdens. | bad correlation | |
Isaiah 41:4, 44:6, 48:12; Revelation 1:8, 21:5-8, 22:13 & Revelation 1:17 | Both the Father and Jesus is called "the First and the Last". | bad correlation | |
Isaiah 43:11; 1 Timothy 1:1, 2:3, 4:10 ... & Philippians 3:20; 2 Peter 1:11, 2:20, 3:18 ... | Both the Father and Jesus is called "the Saviour" | bad correlation | |
Isaiah 54:5-10, Hosea 2:16-20 & 2 Corinthians 11:2 (NLT), Ephesians 5:25-27, Revelation 21:9-11 | Both the Father and Jesus will marry the Church. | symbolic | |
Matthew 10:40; Mark 9:37; Luke 9:48; John 12:44 | The Father is received, when Jesus is received. | context | |
Matthew 16:27-28, Revelation 14:1, 19:11-16, 22:1-5 & Matthew 16:27-28, Revelation 22:1-5 | Both the Father and Jesus will return to judge the world | bad correlation | |
John 5:21, Acts 2:24; Romans 4:17; Galatians 1:1 | Both the Father and Jesus can resurrect people | bad correlation | |
John 10:30 | Jesus said he and the Father are one. | context | |
John 13:33 | Jesus calls his disciples "children" like a Father. | bad translation | |
John 14:18 | Jesus adopts children like a Father. | context | |
John 15:9 | Jesus can love like the Father. | biased translation | |
Romans 14:10-12 & 2 Corinthians 5:10 | Both the Father and Jesus appear on "the judgment seat". | context | |
Philippians 2:9-11 | Both the Father and Jesus has the same name: "the Lord" | confused by name removal | |
Titus 2:13 (NIV) | Jesus is our great God and Saviour. | bad translation | |
Hebrews 1:6 | The angels worship Jesus | context | |
Revelation 5:13-14 | Every creature worship Jesus | confusing events |
Is Jesus equal with the Father?
- Trinitarians: Yes, because he is the Father.
- Unitarians: No, they are distinct.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Genesis 18:25 & Matthew 10:32-33, John 5:22, 1 John 2:1 | Both the Father and Jesus judge sin. | bad correlation |
Exodus 3:14 & John 8:58 | Both the Father and Jesus identified themselves as "I am". | bad correlation |
Exodus 10:17-19, 32:32; Numbers 14:18; Psalm 25:18; Isaiah 43:25; Matthew 6:14-15 & Matthew 9:2; Mark 2:10 | Both the Father and Jesus forgives sin. | bad correlation |
Exodus 15:26 & John 4:46-54, 5:8-9 | Both the Father and Jesus can heal. | bad correlation |
Exodus 34:6; Numbers 14:17 & Psalm 2:12 | Both the Father and Jesus have emotions. | bad correlation |
Psalm 33:6-9; 95:3-6; 148:5 ... & John 1:10, Colossians 1:16-17, Hebrews 1:10, Hebrews 2:10 | Both the Father and Jesus created the world. | multiple arguments |
Psalm 95:3 | Both the Father and Jesus is called "the King". | bad correlation |
Matthew 19:17; Mark 10:18; Luke 18:19 & John 10:11,14 | Both the Father and Jesus is good. | bad correlation |
John 8:55, 13:32, 17:1,5; Philippians 2:11 | Both the Father and Jesus should be glorified. | bad correlation |
John 14:18-19 | Both the Father and Jesus are inside each other. | biased translation |
Philippians 2:6-8 | Paul states that Jesus is "equal with God". | bad translation |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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God and Jesus are distinct for various reasons. | ||
Isaiah 46:5 | No one is equal to the Father. | |
Matthew 20:23 | Jesus has less authority than the Father. | |
Mark 16:19 | [Mark saw Jesus sat at the right hand of God (submissive position).]() | |
Luke 10:21 | Jesus address the Father as "Lord (Master) of heaven and earth". | man-part of Jesus |
John 8:49-50 | Jesus says the Father is the Judge. | man-part of Jesus |
John 10:29; John 14:28 | Jesus says the Father is "greater" than him. | man-part of Jesus |
Is Jesus almighty?
- Trinitarians: Yes, because he is God.
- Unitarians: No, because he is a human.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Job 11:7; Luke 1:37 | God is almighty. | not-jesus |
Matthew 11:28-30 | Jesus said he can solve everyone's problems. Therefore he has to be God. | context |
Matthew 25:31 | Jesus will rule from his glorious throne. | wrong conclusion |
Matthew 28:18; John 16:15,17:1-2 | Jesus got all authority. | context |
1 Timothy 6:15; Revelation 17:14,19:16 | Jesus is the King of kings and Lord of lords. | wrong conclusion |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
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Matthew 3:16; Mark 1:10; Luke 3:22; Acts 10:38 | Jesus needed the Holy Spirit.. | man-part of Jesus |
Matthew 4:11 (ESV); Mark 1:13; Luke 22:43 | Jesus needed angels to strengthen him. | man-part of Jesus |
John 5:19-20,30 | Although God is almighty, Jesus is limited. | man-part of Jesus |
John 14:12 | Jesus' "works" (miracles?) are limited. |
Is Jesus all-knowing?
- Trinitarians: Yes, because he is God.
- Unitarians: No, because he is a human.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Job 11:7; Isaiah 40:13-14; Luke 1:37; Romans 11:33; 1 John 3:20 | God is all knowing. | not-jesus |
John 16:29-31 | The disciples said that Jesus "knows all things". | context |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Matthew 24:36; Mark 5:30; Luke 8:45 | Jesus does not know everything. | man-part of Jesus |
Matthew 27:33-34 | Jesus did not notice that they mixed gall with his drink. | man-part of Jesus |
Luke 2:52 | Jesus grew. | man-part of Jesus |
John 5:19-20, 7:16, 14:24 | Jesus teach what he learned. | man-part of Jesus |
John 8:28; Hebrews 5:8 | Jesus is teachable. | man-part of Jesus |
John 10:31-36 | Jesus could not read the Jews' minds. | man-part of Jesus |
Is Jesus omnipresent?
- Trinitarians: Yes, because he is God.
- Unitarians: No, because he is a human.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Psalm 139:7-10; Ephesians 4:6; Revelation 19:6 | God is omnipresent. | not-jesus |
Matthew 18:20; Matthew 28:20 | Jesus says that he is omnipresent. | misunderstood idiom |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
John 11:14-15 | [Jesus was not present at Lazarus' death.](/god/son/essence/of-man/limitations#Jesus is not omnipresent) | man-part of Jesus |
John 14:2-4; 16:28 | [Jesus has left.](/god/son/essence/of-man/limitations#Jesus is not omnipresent) | man-part of Jesus |
John 17:11-13 | [Jesus is not in the world.](/god/son/essence/of-man/limitations#Jesus is not omnipresent) | man-part of Jesus |
Is Jesus immortal?
- Trinitarians: Yes, because he is God.
- Unitarians: No, because he is a human.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
John 2:19-22, 10:17-18 | Jesus raised himself from the dead. | assumption |
1 Timothy 6:13-16 | Jesus alone has immortality. | confusing subjects |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Acts 2:32, 13:30, 17:30-31; 1 Corinthians 15:15 | God resurrected Jesus from the dead. | man-part of Jesus |
1 Corinthians 15:1-8 | Jesus had to be able to die for our sins. | man-part of Jesus |
Is Jesus eternal?
- Trinitarians: Yes, Jesus pre-existed before time started because he created our world, and he is an invincible eternal God who cannot cease to exist.
- Unitarians: Not on his own, but Jesus was created by God, resurrected by God after he died, and exalted by God to live forever with God.
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Genesis 1:5 | Jesus created time. | assumption |
Micah 5:2 & Matthew 2:5-6 | Jesus is the eternal ruler, which is only possible for God. | wrong conclusion |
Revelation 1:17-18 | Jesus is the First and the Last. | misunderstood idiom |
Revelation 1:8, 21:6-7, 22:12-13 | Jesus is the "Alpha and Omega". | bad correlation |
Jesus created the world, therefore he must have pre-existed. | multiple arguments | |
Jesus is the Aleph-Tav, written in the first verse in the Bible. | proven wrong |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
1 Chronicles 29:29; 2 Chronicles 35:26-27 | Like Jesus, other humans are also considered "first and last". | |
John 1:18 | Jesus is God's begotten son, therefore there had to be a period where the son did not exist yet. | man-part of Jesus |
John 3:16; Revelation 21:4 | Like Jesus, believers will also live forever. | |
Jesus did not pre-exist before his birth. | multiple arguments |
Does Jesus serve God?
- Trinitarians: No, because he is God.
- Unitarians: Yes
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Psalm 2:7-12 | The Son rules over all nations. | confused by name removal |
Psalm 83:18; Daniel 4:34-37 | The LORD has the highest authority. | not jesus |
Relationships
How does God relate to Jesus?
- Trinitarians: God is Jesus
- Unitarians: God is the Father of Jesus
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument | |
---|---|---|---|
Matthew 3:16-17; Mark 1:9-11, 9:7; Luke 3:21; John 1:51; 2 Peter 1:16-18 | The disciples heard that God's voice distinct from Jesus | ||
Matthew 3:16-17; Mark 1:9-11, 9:7; Luke 3:21; John 1:51; 2 Peter 1:16-18 | God is not suffering from NPD when He announces that He loves Jesus | ||
Matthew 3:16-17; Mark 1:9-11, 9:7; Luke 3:21; John 1:51; 2 Peter 1:16-18 | No father can be his own son, yet some believe God the Father is the Son | godhead | |
Matthew 3:16-17; Mark 1:9-11, 9:7; Luke 3:21; John 1:51; 2 Peter 1:16-18 | God calls Jesus "My beloved son", not "Godhead member", "body" or "avatar" | demo | |
Matthew 12:48-50; 16:13-19; John 15:14-15; 17:1-26 | Jesus calls God "My Father" | godhead | |
John 4:34, 5:19, 6:38, 8:55, 10:37, 14:31; Romans 6:10 ... | Jesus is a servant of God. | see above | |
John 17:1-26 | Jesus said that he is not God | reflecting |
How does Jesus relate to God?
- Trinitarians: Jesus is God
- Unitarians: Jesus is the Son of God
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Psalm 2:7-11; Romans 8:17 | Jesus is a fellow heir of God. | |
Jesus identified God as his God, but also his Father, distinct from himself. | godhead | |
There a multiple other witnesses indicating that Jesus is the Son of God. | godhead |
How does God relate to the disciples?
- Trinitarians: God, the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit
- Unitarians: Our Father
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Psalm 68:4-6 | God is the Father to the disciples. | roles |
Matthew 23:9 | Jesus said, while being on earth: "Call no man your Father on earth" | |
Ephesians 1:3-6; 2:14-22; 5:1-2,8-10 | The disciples are God's adopted and beloved children. | roles |
They did not serve him as their God, but instead paid obeisance to him. | biased translation |
How does Jesus relate to the disciples?
- Trinitarians: God, the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit
- Unitarians: Our brother or our friend
Scripture | Trinitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Isaiah 54:5-10; Hosea 2:16-20 & 2 Corinthians 11:2; 2 Corinthians 11:2 | We are God's bride and we are Jesus' bride, therefore God and Jesus is the same husband. | bad correlation |
Matthew 2:11, 8:2, 9:18, 14:33, 15:25, 20:20, 28:9,16-17; Mark 5:6; Luke 24:52; John 9:38 | They worshipped him as God. | biased translation |
John 12:26 | They served him as God. | confusing translation |
Scripture | Unitarian argument | Counter argument |
---|---|---|
Isaiah 55:8-9 & John 14:6 | Jesus is our way, God is our destination, not the other way around. | roles |
Matthew 12:48-50; 25:40; Romans 8:29 | Jesus calls his disciples brothers and sisters. | roles |
John 15:14-15 | Jesus calls his disciples friends. | roles |
(This article mainly focus on the reasoning of the Trinitarians and Unitarians. I also compare interpretations of Jesus from other views in another article.)