Counterarguments

Some articles refer to "Rebuttals". These are the general meanings of these counterarguments.

assumption

The argument assumes that a certain aspect is the truth while there are no convincing evidence to support it.

For example:

A is B because of X, however
X is not proven

bad correlation

The argument incorrectly correlates to unrelated truths.

For example:

A is B (correct), and
C is D (correct)

therefore they assume

A is D

bad quotation

A missing or wrong scripture is quoted to support the argument.

For example:

A is B, because of quote
(but quote is invalid)

The counter to this counterargument is that often people incorrectly quoted scripture because they were paraphrasing. But does these incorrect "paraphrases" support an argument if it changes the meaning of the text?

bad translation

There are no strong evidence that support the translation which changes the meaning of the scripture.

For example:

Original text: A is A
Translated text: A is B

biased translation

The argument is supported by a biased translator who incorrectly chosen the wrong version of a word that has multiple meanings.

Definition of A: Could mean B or C (depending on context)

Original text: A is B (original intention based on context)
Translated text: A is C (supports argument better)

confusing events

The argument assumes that distinct events refers to the same event.

For example:

  1. A happened to a, then separately
  2. B happened to b, but only afterward

but they interpret

A and B happened simultaneously to a and b or a = b

confused by name removal

Because God's name was removed from the Bible's text, the intended meaning changed.

For example:

"The son is our lord and YHVH is our God."

but is translated:

"The son is our Lord and the Lord is our God."

confusing subjects

The argument confuses distinct subjects as if they all apply to the same subject:

For example:

  1. A applies to subject a, and
  2. B applies to subject b, but intended distinctively

However, because they are part of the same sentence, people would view

a = b (subject a is synonymous to b),

then they would reason that the statement A and the statement B both applies to the subject a and b

confusing translation

The scripture is incorrectly translated when compared with other verses which uses the same word but for a different purpose.

A could also mean B (but it depends on the context)

Original text: A is X and A is X (in same context) Translated text: A is X and B is X (in same context but confusing meanings)

or the other way around:

  1. A translates to X or Z, and
  2. B translates to Y or Z

but they translate it:

Original text: A is allowed, but B is forbidden Confusing translation: Z is allowed, but Z is forbidden Clear translation: X is allowed, but Y is forbidden

context

The scripture is quoted out of context. The original intended meaning of the author's words does not support the argument.

For example:

The author wrote: Only when X, then A is B, otherwise A is C.

but the argument only quote the "A is C" portion and the rest of the condition is ignored.

demo

Jesus was not interacting with a different god, Jesus was demonstrating how his disciples must interact with him.

godhead

The argument ignores the complex doctrine of the Godhead which view "God" as the Father, Jesus or the Holy Spirit or any combination of them. The argument require that you first need to study Christian theology which also requires a solid understanding of ancient Hebrew and Greek manuscripts to understand the argument.

In short, according to the doctrine, the arguer may replace or mix the terms "God", "Father", "Jesus", "Holy Spirit" with each other as necessary so that the scripture do not contradict itself, because according to the doctrine, they are all "equal".

interpretation

The same scripture could be interpreted in different ways and more evidence are required to proof the argument.

limited vocabulary

Although, the word was invented for the lack of our limited vocabulary, the concept is supposedly ancient.

majority

Something does not become the truth just because the majority agrees.

man-part of Jesus

The scripture only refers to the human part of Jesus. The argument oversimplify the Godhead concept which is a very complex understanding.

misunderstood idiom

The argument stems from a misunderstanding of a proverb or idiom.

not-jesus

The argument assumes that the scripture applies to Jesus, but there are no concrete evidence in the quoted scriptures alone that support the argument.

overgeneralized

The argument assumes that because one aspect is true, all similar aspects is also the same.

For example:

The author wrote: A is X.

but argument assumes:

All is X.

proven wrong

The argument makes an assumption which can be proven wrong.

For example:

It is argued that:

A is X

but it is proven with evidence that

A is not X

reflecting

Jesus was not really having a conversation with God. He was reflecting, thinking aloud or sharing information with his disciples by providing them an example how he expect them to have a conversation with him. When Jesus as a question to God, it should be interpreted as a Rhetorical question.

restriction of Jesus

Some scholars reason that Jesus is God, but restricted (or incarnated) himself to have the same human limitations as an ordinary human. Only at some later moment (like his baptism, crucifixion, resurrection, ascension) he removed his human restrictions or reincarnated to become God.

roles

Like the same person can be a father to his children, a son to his own father, a husband to his wife, an employee to his employer, a friend to his friend, and so forth, like wise the argument state that God can relate to us by different roles.

strive

Some scholars reason that Jesus meant we should only strive to become like him as far as humanly possible. They reason that we should rather focus on his teachings like love, compassion, forgiveness, humility and so forth instead of trying to serve as he did and that it is impossible for us to do miracles.

symbolic

The argument is based on symbolic (prophetic) language that was taken literally.

theology

The argument accept made-up theologies as truth.

No matter how respected a church father was, his word does not make it the truth unless there are clear evidence to support the argument.

unknown author

The argument quote an unknown author to proof an argument. For example the book of Hebrews were written by an unknown author.

vision

The argument confuses a vision with reality. In a vision God can show anything to anyone at anytime without any constraint.

wrong conclusion

Although some facts might be true, the conclusion is wrong because it is based on false evidence or assumptions.

For example:

A is B (correct), B is C (incorrect)

therefore they conclude

A is C